Delivery-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:02:14 -0400
Return-Path: <tor-talk-bounces@lists.torproject.org>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on moria.seul.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
	RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1
X-Original-To: archiver@seul.org
Delivered-To: archiver@seul.org
Received: from eugeni.torproject.org (eugeni.torproject.org [38.229.72.13])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by khazad-dum.seul.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 527D71E0C5E;
	Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:02:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from eugeni.torproject.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C93330DD3;
	Mon, 29 Sep 2014 19:02:07 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD05B30DC1
 for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 19:02:03 +0000 (UTC)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eugeni.torproject.org
Received: from eugeni.torproject.org ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (eugeni.torproject.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id kmcQMa1LoN1U for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>;
 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 19:02:03 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from smtp1.goneo.de (smtp1.goneo.de [85.220.129.30])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
 (Client did not present a certificate)
 by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E1B830C3C
 for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 19:02:03 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by smtp1.goneo.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAE323F193
 for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:01:59 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: by goneo
Received: from smtp1.goneo.de ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (smtp1.goneo.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id Zl2HQjc4oZwU for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>;
 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:01:58 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from chstpc-2 (aftr-88-217-180-69.dynamic.mnet-online.de
 [88.217.180.69])
 by smtp1.goneo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01EEB23F3A5
 for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:01:57 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <1412017316.2149.5.camel@genodeftest.de>
From: Christian Stadelmann <chris.privat@genodeftest.de>
To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:01:56 +0200
In-Reply-To: <54201CA1.5020307@unimi.it>
References: <1411300196.1623.4.camel@chstpc-2.fritz.box>
 <54201CA1.5020307@unimi.it>
X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.6 (3.12.6-1.fc21) 
Mime-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity of RSS readers
X-BeenThere: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
Reply-To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
List-Id: "all discussion about theory, design,
 and development of Onion Routing" <tor-talk.lists.torproject.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/tor-talk>, 
 <mailto:tor-talk-request@lists.torproject.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/>
List-Post: <mailto:tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tor-talk-request@lists.torproject.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk>, 
 <mailto:tor-talk-request@lists.torproject.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9219117726525810318=="
Errors-To: tor-talk-bounces@lists.torproject.org
Sender: "tor-talk" <tor-talk-bounces@lists.torproject.org>


--===============9219117726525810318==
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512";
	protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DH6fM9zJl+ziHV9ckyl/"


--=-DH6fM9zJl+ziHV9ckyl/
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi

Am Montag, den 22.09.2014, 14:57 +0200 schrieb Jan Reister:
> Il 21/09/2014 13:49, Christian Stadelmann ha scritto:
> > b) using Tor
> > This is a bad idea too since I regularly fetch some hundred RSS/Atom
> > files, some of them via unencrypted HTTP. This would clearly undermine
> > all anonymity provided by tor.=20
>=20
> Do you mean that the hundreds rss feeds are a unique fingerprint to you?

Yes, I meant that.

>=20
> > What can I do?
> >=20
> > I have only one slight idea of a solution: Use a RSS reader which
> > fetches all files via tor with a random lag between [1]. It MUST load a=
ll
> > content (images, ...) instantly OR remove and never display it.
>=20
> Have you considered a web-based, self-hosted rss reader such as tt-rss?
> You can effectively separate the act of updating the feeds from the act
> of actually reading them.
>=20
> http://tt-rss.org
>=20

Thanks. Looks like I'll try that.


Using IsolateDestAddr is not an option since this would be my web
browser opening a new circuit for every domain/IP I connect to. This
would be something like denial of service for tor (at least the local
tor daemon).

Chris


--=-DH6fM9zJl+ziHV9ckyl/
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"
Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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=9rBU
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--=-DH6fM9zJl+ziHV9ckyl/--


--===============9219117726525810318==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

-- 
tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
To unsubscribe or change other settings go to
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

--===============9219117726525810318==--

