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On 03/10/2014 13:59, Derric Atzrott wrote:
> I would be happy to stalk users of my relay for a while if anyone
> is willing to help me set it up

That's worrying.

There are some strong ethical
> questions in logging all traffic from a relay, but I can't see any
> other way to get this sort of data.

We don't need the data. There are plenty of people who use Tor in
their daily lives to protect themselves, I am one of those people also.

> 
> Given my relay is fairly new to the network, it doesn't have a huge
> amount of traffic, so it wouldn't affect too many people.

The effect is the opposite, by only a handful using your relay it
makes it easier to deanonymise people.

Please let me know your relay fingerprint and I'll be sure to
blacklist it from my nodes.

- -T
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