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On 10/02/2014 01:15 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/02/2014 06:52 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
> 
> <SNIP>
> 
>> I liked the GPG idea, and brought it back to Wikitech-l. I'll let
>> you guys know if anyone there finds a way to completely break it.
> 
> I've asked about this on gnupg-users, and have been disabused of the
> notion. I get that it's too hard to distinguish between weak keys that
> are easy to generate, and strong keys that are hard to generate.
> 
> What's needed, I think, is challenge-based (as opposed to
> reputation-based) proof-of-work that's very difficult to cheat. That
> sounds like Bitcoin, doesn't it?

Actually, it's more like this SE question.[0] Except that the puzzle
should be at least 10^6 fold more difficult.

Given my ignorance, I'll leave it at that.

[0]
http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/2226/what-challenge-should-i-use-in-a-challenge-response-proof-of-work
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