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Indeed and I hope they share too - I didn't mean to imply any knowledge of
the incident, just explaining in plain language why brute forcing is
involved, to people who are confused.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:50 PM, s7r <s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:

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> On 10/31/2014 2:47 PM, Sam Pizzey wrote:
> > So called 'vanity' addresses are essentially a brute force -
> > generating tons of keys until you get one that starts with the
> > prefix you want. The difference is that 'bob1d8rhdu2h.onion' is a
> > lot less specific than facebookwwwi.onion - if Facebook can brute
> > force arbitrary strings like that, they can instead brute force,
> > say, <address of silk road>, or <address of David's hidden service>
> > and then impersonate it.
> >
>
> It is not that simple. What makes you think they generated exactly the
> URL facebookcorewwwi.onion completely? They need to show some more
> information about how they did it... There is also a chance that they
> took a very long time to generate facebook*.
>
> As I said, only they can tell us exactly.
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