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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Removing viruses from the BIOS Chip to Vladimir and
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Because his response was helpful, earnest and legit?

It is a fairly common security practice for privacy minded people to 
walk into a store and purchase with cash a laptop from a random store so 
as to minimize the potential that the device was intercepted and 
interfered with in-transit (as the NSA has done with machines and cisco 
network gear).

The stuff you believe you are infected with is generally considered a 
valuable asset and is not disseminated promiscuously for risk that it 
will be discovered, analyzed and publicly exposed -- when they do deploy 
that stuff it's targeted at specific networks, systems, people and 
groups -- a random cash purchase of a new PC is a helpful and legit 
suggestion and your response to people trying to be helpful is not going 
to encourage additional responses.


> William H. Depperman <mailto:whd2@columbia.edu>
> November 22, 2015 at 10:11 PM
> You ARE totally naive and did not read what I posted. You sound like a 
> disinformation specialist who wishes to sweep BIOS Chip Viruses--what 
> the NSA actually uses today-under the rug. Why would you write such a 
> "response" if it was not for disinformation and trivializing purposes
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> Depperman
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> Scfith Rise up <mailto:scfith@riseup.net>
> November 22, 2015 at 10:05 PM
> Can't you just buy a new machine with cash, and then make sure to never let it out of your site? What your describing would only happen if they have physical access to your machine to install ANT in the bios. Probably naive here, but I don't think that every machine made is already owned by the powers that be.
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