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Allen,
SSH is probably more dangerous than OBFS4 because it coulee be detected with a DPI fingerprint.  They might question that.  I think Tor with transports is good.
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Allen <allenpmd@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> You should remove these CAs
> 
> Or they might fire you.  IMO, you want to stay under the radar of your IT
> department.  Much better if you can to let them have their MiTM certs and
> go around them using SSH or some other protocol.
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