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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker
<phill@hallambaker.com> wrote:
> I am getting so fed up with unsourced nonsense stories.
> The CIA is fully capable of making an official statement.

This brief interview may or may not be sourced from the CIA,
however it does drop some specific nets, apps and screenshots...

Top questions asked on the ISIS 'Help Desk'... Dr. Aaron Brantly, a
cyber fellow at the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point answers.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/18/technology/isis-jihad-help-desk/
http://ht3.cdn.turner.com/money/big/technology/2015/11/19/isis-help-desk.cnnmoney_1024x576.mp4


Meanwhile, Manhattan DA steps up pressure on Google and Apple to open
up encryption to government...
https://thestack.com/security/2015/11/19/cyrus-vance-jr-zero-knowledge-encryption-apple-google/
http://manhattanda.org/sites/default/files/11%2018%2015%20DANY%20Financial%20Crimes%20and%20Cybersecurity%20Sympo
sium%20Remarks%20As%20Prepared.pdf

Strong encryption for the people and individuals is not negotiable.
Keep on pushing that straight crypto dope, man...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixfchZ1s47Q
Let the record play...



> they can do so by having a named spokesperson give an on the record
> briefing.

Declothing the emperor is not in their interest.

> who had military weapons

Other than NBC and massive moving metal war machines
that require taxes to fabricate, the only real difference is "laws".
Dual use. One man's freedom fighter...

> The highly centralized, rigid, US military is unable to function
> without constant communication.

Forget the people, shoot the antennas.
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