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On 2016-05-03 01:34, Mirimir wrote:
> On 05/02/2016 02:41 PM, blobby@openmailbox.org wrote:
>> I signed up for Proton Mail only to be asked for SMS validation (just 
>> as
>> Gmail does). Tutanota did not ask for SMS checks, but my account has
>> been suspended for up to 48 hours while they manually check it (which
>> doesn't sound too unreasonable since it's free). However, both these
>> services proclaim they are pro-privacy but they are more or less 
>> anti-Tor.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
> 
> Tutanota has nuked accounts that I've created via Tor.

How do you mean "nuked"? Existing accounts just vanish? Or you are never 
allowed to send / receive mail?

Openmailbox (which I am using now) used to allow signups via Tor but now 
any form of Tor or VPN signup is banned.
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