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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Proton Mail and Tutanota - not exactly Tor friendly.
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On 05/02/2016 02:41 PM, blobby@openmailbox.org wrote:
> I signed up for Proton Mail only to be asked for SMS validation (just as
> Gmail does). Tutanota did not ask for SMS checks, but my account has
> been suspended for up to 48 hours while they manually check it (which
> doesn't sound too unreasonable since it's free). However, both these
> services proclaim they are pro-privacy but they are more or less anti-Tor.
> 
> Thoughts?

Tutanota has nuked accounts that I've created via Tor.

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