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Hi Tor Talkers,

did you already notice

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/rule-41-little-known-committee-propos=
es-grant-new-hacking-powers-government
"If this rule change is not stopped [till dec 16], anyone who is using any =
technological means to safeguard their location privacy could find themselv=
es suddenly in the jurisdiction of a prosecutor-friendly or technically-na=
=EFve judge, anywhere in the country.

The second part of the proposal is just as concerning. It would grant autho=
rization to a judge to issue a search warrant for hacking, seizing, or othe=
rwise infiltrating computers that may be part of a botnet. This means victi=
ms of malware could find themselves doubly infiltrated: their computers inf=
ected with malware and used to contribute to a botnet, and then government =
agents given free rein to remotely access their computers as part of the in=
vestigation. "

maybe in that context

https://twitter.com/isislovecruft/status/727911067318423553
The FBI has harassed me for 6 months and is now threatening to subpoena for=
 reasons unknown.
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