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On 5/5/15, l.m <ter.one.leeboi@hush.com> wrote:
> I didn't say wondering about an anomaly is disrespectful. Assuming you
> have the right bring their relay's to everyone's attention is
> disrespectful.

"Dodgson, Dodgson, we've got Dodgson here!"
 ... in other words, relays are inherently public.


more importantly, this is an opportunity for researchers to show good
faith by being forthcoming about the purpose and impact of their
efforts. if it is careful research, vetted by legal council and
supported by the institution, such heads up is reasonable.


if you're not aware of ethical considerations, working for the
[REDACTED], or using Tor exit traffic as unwitting guinea pigs,
  then your silence is suspect, and relays in such scenario deserving
of even more scrutiny.


my $0.02
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