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Subject: [tor-talk] Use of TOR for illegal activities
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I have just finished Macdonald's "Future Crime", a recent book listing the
ways in which we are all abused and insulted, and will be further abused
and insulted, by unsavory persons and organizations through our
technology, particularly through the Internet.  It makes sobering reading.

TOR is mentioned frequently, but the references are primary to its use by
criminals to carry out illegal activity, such as the Silk Road incident.

This ties in somewhat to a recent posting on this list claiming that 2/3's
of the activity on TOR is involved in pornography.

I suppose I sound like a disapproving fussbudget, but I have trouble
understanding how and why we allow TOR to be used this way.  I'm all for
free speech, but it's still illegal to falsely yell "Fire!" in a crowded
theater.

Is there some way to keep TOR out of the hands of sleazebags and crooks?

Paul
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I have spoken; all depart.
Paul A. Crable.  Portland, Ore.  U.S.A.

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