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Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> writes:

> On 03/07/2016 06:23 AM, fkqqrr@autistici.org wrote:
>> On 2016-03-07 13:13, Pickfire wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 08:48:28PM +0800, fkqqrr wrote:
>>>> Can 'disable javascript' unblock target site access?
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't, but you can solve those non-javascript captcha easier.
>> Cloudflare uses visual captcha. What's is worse, even I correctly verify
>> the visual captcha, cloudflare block my access.
>> 
>> So I cannot bypass it currently.
>
> OpenVPN Onion VPS for Evading Discrimination Against Tor
> https://dbshmc5frbchaum2.onion/OpenVPN-Onion-VPS.html
Link down? cannot connect.
>
> Basically, it's a VPN service that's reachable _only_ as an onion
> service. So no exit nodes get wasted. But there's no crowding unless you
> share the .onion with others. And once jerks are using it, it will get
> blacklisted, and the VPS may be taken down. So it goes.
>
> I must emphasize that this is _only_ safe if you lease the VPS as
> anonymously as you need to be for the sites that you'll be browsing. You
> do everything through Tor. You provide fake contact information, use a
> fresh email address, and pay with well-mixed Bitcoin. Mix at least
> twice, among independent wallets in different Whonix instances, using
> different mixing services. And check for taint at each stage.
>
>>>> CAPTCHA needs javascript submit verification code.
>>>
>>> No, there is an html version which is easier that uses a POST method.
>
> I've generally found the Javascript CAPTCHAs to be easier. For a while,
> they were just house numbers. Now it's image classification. And their
> criteria are ambiguous. Is the pole supporting a sign part of the sign?
>
>>> I heard that it is easier to create a script that breaks the audio
>>> captcha compare to the visual captcha.
>
> No audio here ;) Too dangerous.
Why audio dangerous?
>
>>>> Whatever you are, be a good one
>>>
>>> CAPTCHA isn't a good one.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> web: http://pickfire.wha.la/
>>> gpg: rsa4096/DBD0F842
>> 

-- 
Whatever you are, be a good one

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