Delivery-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:39:17 -0500
Return-Path: <tor-talk-bounces@lists.torproject.org>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on moria.seul.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
	DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD,
	URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham version=3.3.1
X-Original-To: archiver@seul.org
Delivered-To: archiver@seul.org
Received: from eugeni.torproject.org (eugeni.torproject.org [38.229.72.13])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by khazad-dum.seul.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C71DA1E0A88
	for <archiver@seul.org>; Wed,  4 Mar 2015 13:39:15 -0500 (EST)
Received: from eugeni.torproject.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB97B34361;
	Wed,  4 Mar 2015 18:39:11 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436CB3435F
 for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>; Wed,  4 Mar 2015 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at 
Received: from eugeni.torproject.org ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (eugeni.torproject.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id BnXcJc9-MhHD for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>;
 Wed,  4 Mar 2015 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com
 [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
 (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com",
 Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (not verified))
 by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDE0C3435C
 for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>; Wed,  4 Mar 2015 18:39:07 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by wivr20 with SMTP id r20so1230821wiv.3
 for <tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 10:39:05 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
 h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
 :content-type; bh=YGnzb/N70wSOL1ZttbJKcDRFQyIPPB7bGEFV6uBMISU=;
 b=HJzMv6eJOoeWSFhdKkSwca69v0EWms2iUYtUJr9Xy/tB1z4stCsduqhLmBD16mqSBJ
 ZfetdwMfY0tSvt4GP40NmPBKIo6HqUseMAGNCwLa/+ZN+8V1Rj6erWgyBpZmNR5cn0oY
 FnIVwgE8SSwpUSdCtOO72ouDXnYLQ6XCoK1NS2/6yMk/gZl2hFQuANQQcSP/DEaZW3D7
 JGus+ScMvdBPjI9YjSKandNl3aw6qvQtBLbWft/f7sVRjThw+aUJhAe09WqAX0EaZ2H4
 iTrbf0y3PspjH1bINCSjvz/grET7Qz3DTjgw3VbFLszPC9Z9sty1YVC/Ba3yd8hfZd6m
 Vz+g==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.180.36.174 with SMTP id r14mr57665780wij.93.1425494345142;
 Wed, 04 Mar 2015 10:39:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.27.45.3 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 10:39:05 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <N1-BYpT3R43m8@Safe-mail.net>
References: <N1-BYpT3R43m8@Safe-mail.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 11:39:05 -0700
Message-ID: <CALoT2zZgjr_PHpzGkA0pGvpvJunsY4K1nkjoO=kf8RVpPqr8qA@mail.gmail.com>
From: michael ball <michaelballriseup@gmail.com>
To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.15
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tor project idea for internet comments
X-BeenThere: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
Reply-To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
List-Id: "all discussion about theory, design,
 and development of Onion Routing" <tor-talk.lists.torproject.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/tor-talk>, 
 <mailto:tor-talk-request@lists.torproject.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/>
List-Post: <mailto:tor-talk@lists.torproject.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tor-talk-request@lists.torproject.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk>, 
 <mailto:tor-talk-request@lists.torproject.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Errors-To: tor-talk-bounces@lists.torproject.org
Sender: "tor-talk" <tor-talk-bounces@lists.torproject.org>

This isn't technically feasible-- for example, censored users in countries
with slow Internet speeds (Iran, Cuba, Syria) would be unable to connect to
the network by being forced to relay connections if they install the
browser plugin. The Tor network relies on volunteers who have the ability
to quickly and safely relay traffic to do so, and users who do not have
those abilities are not at a disadvantage.

Tor developers, community members and volunteers could better spend the
time creating this system for something that yields more results, like
actually encouraging the websites who censor Tor users to not do so-- they
should rather use a CAPTCHA system or another form of human verification
(that does not break anonymity).

> So many news website block comments they dont like these days.

This isn't something new or exclusive to Tor users. Anyone who creates a
website with a comment system can censor and prune the comments they don't
agree with. I do agree, a separate comment system would be great at
fighting the censorship by websites, but it isn't something the Tor
developers should focus on.

Good idea, but not exactly the right place. Thanks for the idea, and
welcome to the Tor mailing list!
-- 
tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
To unsubscribe or change other settings go to
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

