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> If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe,
leaving the list to its inevitable decline,
> destined to join the ever-lengthening roll of moribund, flame-filled
lists that no longer exist or have ceased > to serve any useful function on
the net.

I personally support more aggressive blocking of mad tinhatters.

-V


On Friday, March 6, 2015, Goltz, Jim (NIH/CIT) [E] <jgoltz@mail.nih.gov>
wrote:

> > So you use your perceived authority of an upset citizen to mask your
> > incapacity to use filters?
>
> Not all of us read this list on a MUA that has easy-to-use filters.  We
> generally subscribe to lists that contain useful information, have a high
> signal-to-noise ratio, and are subscribed to by users who care more about
> the intended list subject than about getting into yet another useless flame
> war.
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> If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe,
> leaving the list to its inevitable decline, destined to join the
> ever-lengthening roll of moribund, flame-filled lists that no longer exist
> or have ceased to serve any useful function on the net.
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> This is by far not the only list, group, or blog out there.  Even if it is
> the only one that contains "Tor talk", if it ceases to have any content
> related to its intended purpose, I have no reason to stay subscribed.  If I
> want unsubstantiated accusations and wild theories, I'll read YouTube
> comments or watch Fox News.
>
> --
> Jim Goltz <jgoltz@mail.nih.gov <javascript:;>>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lara [mailto:lara.tor@emails.veryspeedy.net <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Thursday, 05 March, 2015 10:14
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly
> opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)
>
> mick:
> > Now can we all stop rising to troll bait?
>
> So you use your perceived authority of an upset citizen to mask your
> incapacity to use filters?
>
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