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I find that Google gives better results than DuckDuckGo. I used to use 
Scroogle before they closed down.

I get the 403 error from time to time. It depends on the exit node 
rather than Tor per se.

The 403 is different to being forced to do a CAPTCHA and then obtaining 
the search results. The 403 does block any results and basically says 
"this is all we know".

On 2016-06-07 04:19, Ansley Dunbar wrote:
> I don't entirely understand-- the problem was that Google was 
> preventing
> you from accessing any link to the program by denying the search 
> request
> altogether, right? And the fix was... finding it off Tor?
> 
> After your first email I tried a few different search variables to
> duplicate the 403 error, but they were all successful.
> 
> 
> On 6/6/16 21:44, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> Well I found what I was looking for for someone when I got off the tor 
>> proxi. It was a link to mp3 gain they needed for mac. And that's what 
>> I was doing a google search for at the time.
>> 
>> Blessings and happy Monday
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Kevin <kevinsisco61784@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure what google has against tor.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/6/2016 7:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> Oh good, I'm not theeonly one seeing the error then. Well I guess I 
>>>> will have to not do my google searches when using the tor network 
>>>> then I guess. I use the proxi method of tor so yeah glad it fails to 
>>>> on the tor browser. Well, nt glad, but glad I'm not feeling like I'm 
>>>> going crazy.
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Kevin <kevinsisco61784@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well I tried it and it gives me that error.  It seems that google 
>>>>> is blocking tor.  At least that's how it seems to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/6/2016 4:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>> I can try it out, but if it is not accessible to me using 
>>>>>> voiceover that won't work at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll look into it later. Right now I'm trying to write some 
>>>>>> documentation on something I'm designing, and I just came up for 
>>>>>> air for a bit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Blessings and happy Monday
>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Cecilia Tanaka 
>>>>>>> <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2016 1:47 AM, "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was just on the tor network and launched google to do a 
>>>>>>>>> google search.
>>>>>>> I got a 403 forbidden when trying to search for something.  (...) 
>>>>>>>  I didn't
>>>>>>> know tor blocked google searches.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, Sarah.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Until I know  - and I know almost nothing, sorry! -  Tor doesn't 
>>>>>>> block
>>>>>>> Google resources and Google's official position about Tor Project 
>>>>>>> is:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Google is not doing anything intentionally specifically to deter 
>>>>>>> or block
>>>>>>> Tor use."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just for curiosity, try to use Duck Duck Go instead Google for 
>>>>>>> making your
>>>>>>> searches when using Tor, please.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is pretty cute and some of their collaborators are amazing 
>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>> Happy "quack quack" experience for you!  :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have a lovely day!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cecilia
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