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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Panda antivirus now thinks Tor.exe is a virus
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Panda AV detects a lot of false positives, including itself:
http://www.pandasecurity.com/usa/enterprise/support/card?id=3D100045

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/5590eee15536b9c585e9b8bfebfacebeb6d9b9ef=
5a436535b48b75a6a029f06b/analysis/1434471994/
VT says it's not detected by Panda, so might be a behaviour detection:
1) Browser downloads unknown exe without an 720=B0SuperTrust(tm) code
signing certificate
2) Browser saves unknown exe on disk
3) Browser starts unknown exe
4) unknown exe starts using internet

Speak Freely wrote:
> Greetings and salutations,
> =

> During the latest upgrade of TBB, Panda Antivirus had a shit fit, and
> deleted Tor.exe on me.
> =

> The upgrade was initiated by TBB, if that means anything.
> =

> Just thought I would share that.
> =

> =

> Matt
> Speak Freely
> =

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