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Descriptions of what the links are about would be appreciated.  =
Otherwise this kind of post looks awfully spammy to my eye.

But since we are on the topic, I am curious whether packet delivery =
shuffling will be added to Tor, and also what other notable security =
features distinguish these networks from Tor.

> On 12 Jul 2016, at 1:43 PM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/4sebaw/mit_anonymity_network_=
promises_to_be_more_secure/
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D12073942
> http://dedis.cs.yale.edu/dissent/
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