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this list may not want a full on discussion of politics in Britain but just to say that at the last election in Britain it boiled down to a choice between Labour that introduced much if the basis for current spy laws or Conservatives that wish to further develop the spy laws and so blaming the people for voting for a party that increases surveillance is not a valid thing to do - as with many countries, democracy is a sham in Britain.

cheers,
oshwm.


On 28 July 2015 07:16:23 BST, Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner <hello@veloc1ty.de> wrote:
>Hi Dan,
>
>yesterday I experienced the same issue with slow downloads of the
>descriptors but with Telekom as ISP. After the descriptor download
>everything was fine.
>Today everything is working fine. Do you still have a probleme? If not
>I
>think there was just a temporary network problem.
>
>>
>> I wouldn't have assumed that communications without surveillance are
>becoming that difficult in Germany. A lot of countries is developing
>legislation that makes encryption illegal or nearly impossible now.
>>
>
>Well, Great Britrain for example. This country isn't a third world
>country and people have the ability to vote and speak freely. If the
>people don't raise their voices and refuse to vote someone they like
>more because "that will change nothing" they have to pay for their
>decision. Of course this isn't something restricted to Great Britain
>but
>also for Germany, France, etc.
>
>
>
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