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Unfortunately he doesn't seem to want to take this further, so the
ruling will stand. It's his choice, but it could be a very bad
deterrent to other potential exit node operators in Austria.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Moritz Bartl <moritz@torservers.net> wrote:
> On 07/02/2014 12:42 AM, bauta@clovermail.net wrote:
>> There are little details on this case:
>> https://network23.org/blackoutaustria/2014/07/01/to-whom-it-may-concern-english-version/
>>
>>
>> Does the Tor project has a defense support fund or a list of committed
>> pro bono lawyers in different countries for such cases?
>
> If any Tor operator has any trouble, please contact Tor and
> Torservers.net immediately so we help.
>
> This particular case went bad because of multiple reasons. We strongly
> believe that it can be easily challenged. While certainly shocking,
> lower court ruling should not be taken too seriously, and this won't
> necessarily mean that all Tor relays in Austria are now automatically
> illegal. The ruling only happened two days ago, there is no written
> statement from the court yet, so we should all be patient and wait for
> that before we make any assumptions. We will definitely try and find
> some legal expert in Austria and see what we can do to fight this.
>
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