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From: Virgil Griffith <i@virgil.gr>
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Subject: [tor-talk] What are use cases made unpleasant by Tor's speed?
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I am compiling a list of use cases that Tor's current slowness makes
impossible/unpleasant.  Roger once said, "Whatever you use Tor for someone
will use it for something else."

So with this in mind I'm asking you all for things you (or others) would
like to do through Tor but slowness makes it too unpleasant to do so."

Here's two that came to mind:
* Hidden Services -- these are currently sufficiently slow that they are
limited by the kinds of sites they can host.  If Tor were faster+more
reliable, many more kinds of sites would be pleasant.  Sites like Hidden
Wiki and TorChan come to mind.

* Streaming video/porn -- I can imagine people in many jurisdictions
wanting to browse sites like pornhub.com from Tor.  However, due to speed,
this is largely impossible.

I know there are others.  Suggestions?

-Virgil
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