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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court
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Hi!

On 04 Jul 2014, at 15:31, Moritz Bartl <moritz@torservers.net> wrote:
> I have talked to multiple lawyers, and this case would be very easy to
> defend against. William was sadly unable or unwilling to communicate
> properly, and he's not willing/able to put it to a fight. It is a sad
> situation overall, but it does not change the clear legal status of
> relay operation. All lawyers I talked to expect this case to be more
> complicated than it looks, and it makes no sense to discuss this purely
> based on what we have right now, which is some lawman's blog post.

I've talked to William's lawyer in person as well as the ISPA jurist (Austr=
ian Inter Service Provider's Association) who both joined our Tor-ops meeti=
ng in Vienna yesterday (2014-07-03).

What I can sum up:
It is not illegal to run a Tor relay/exit/bridge in Austria.
We can not take William's case any further.
	Doing so would neither help William nor help to clear up the legal status =
of running relays in Austria.
William's lawyer said he personally considers the court judgement to be wro=
ng.

The Austrian Tor-Community is working to form an official association (Vere=
in) to get a better standing. Goals shall be education about anonymity, bet=
ter communication with law enforcement, better communication with ISPs as w=
ell as the usual technical mumble to build secure and high bandwidth relays.
Building up a legal defense fund and getting a clear statement on whether T=
or-networks fall under the legal term of =84communications network=93 as de=
fined in ECG =A713 is also part of that.


So if you're in Austria and run a relay/exit/bridge, please get in touch, j=
oin our Mailinglist (yes another one) at torservers.at to see if you can he=
lp and to stay in the loop.

Best regards
MacLemon
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