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From: Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:11 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
>         something considered a 'crime' by the criminal mafia knonw as
>         'government' - and yet the identity of those people isn't
>         compromised.

I'm sorry, but it's difficult to take you seriously. If you actually
want anyone to take your words seriously and in the long run effect a
change, you need to start working on your debating skills. Find
sources that backs up your standpoints. Don't go into needless rants.
Those sorts of things.

On the other hand, if you want to look like a screaming child with no
other agenda than wanting to be at the center of attention, you're
doing a good job.
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