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grarpamp wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Jonathan Wilkes
> <jancsika@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm asking here because it does onion routing, so maybe someone
>> here has investigated its design and/or implementation.
> 
> Fully DHT decentralized routing, no exits, presents its anonymous
> network over a local IPv6 interface thus works with all your
> favorite IPv6 enabled software. Probably most similar to CJDNS as
> far as using it goes.

As far as the design goes, it is most similar to I2P's protocol. I
have only read (most of) the original whitepaper[0] so far, and AFAICT
at a high level it is almost identical to I2P, except for a few
specific points (e.g. using IPv4 for identifying anonymizing paths,
and bidirectional circuit-switched tunnels).

> 
> You'll want to read their whitepapers and watch the video. Both of
> which should be linked above. It's worth looking at.
> 

It is an interesting protocol. I am reviewing the whitepapers, and
intend to publish a comparison page on the I2P website[1] once I have
a good understanding of the differences.

str4d

[0] http://www.magnusbrading.com/phantom/phantom-design-paper.pdf
[1] https://geti2p.net/en/comparison
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