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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] HR4681 Sec 309 communication privacy legislation
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Does that apply all over the world?


> From: tim.mitchell7@outlook.com
> Sent: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:39:27 -0800
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: [tor-talk] HR4681 Sec 309 communication privacy legislation
> 
> Morning all,
> 
> 
> If no one has yet seen Section 309 of US HR4681, it contains some very
> dubious language that sounds like it is legalizing indefinite government
> retention of encrypted communications. The text is as follows (Section
> 309.b.3.B.iii):
> 
> (B) Limitation on retention.--A covered communication shall
>  not be retained in excess of 5 years, unless--
> ....
> (iii) the communication is enciphered or reasonably
>  believed to have a secret meaning;
> 
> 
> 
> This might be going out on a limb here, but "enciphered" and "reasonably
> believed to have a secret meaning" could easily be interpreted to apply
> to any and all encrypted Internet traffic, including Tor.
> 
> 
> I'd be curious as to what experts in this area think about this, and how
> to go about raising awareness if this is indeed as serious as it sounds
> to me.
> 
> 
> Full text of the bill can be found here:
> https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4681
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
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