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On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Apple Apple
<djjdjdjdjdjdjd32@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem is most users and developers (including the likes of Linus) do
> not care at all about security but will hit the roof in rage if the system
> is 0.1% slower or this buggy 30 year old Unix application does not work
> anymore.
>
> Is it realistic to incorporate real security into such a mainstream distro
> Debian or do we need to build/ fork a separate distro?

There's a lot of hyperbole here. Do you have anything to back this up?
Did someone actually try to improve the security but had to back down?
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