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Zenaan Harkness:
> Something like
> https://gnunet.org/taxonomy/term/34
> ?
> You can run that now.

Hm...  These from GNUnet's FAQ [0]:

> Q. Is it possible to surf the WWW anonymously with GNUnet?
> A. It is not possible use GNUnet for anonymous browsing at this
> point. We recommend that you use Tor for anonymous surfing.
>
> Q. How does GNUnet compare to Tor?
> A. Tor focuses on anonymous communication and censorship-resistance
> for TCP connections and, with the Tor Browser Bundle, for the Web in
> particular. GNUnet does not really have one focus; our theme is
> secure decentralized networking, but that is too broad to be called a
> focus.

Possible red flag there.

> Q. How does GNS protect against layer-3 censorship?
> A. GNS does not directly help with layer-3 censorship, but it does
> help indirectly in three ways:
>  1) Many websites today....
>  2) Existing layer-3 circumvention solutions (such as Tor) would
> benefit from a censorship resistant naming system. Accessing Tor's
> ".onion" namespace currently requires users to use unmemorable
> cryptographic identifiers. With nicer names, Tor and tor2web-like
> services would be even easier to use.
>

Concerning this goal of finding ways to make onion services easier for  
average users to navigate, after a cursory Startpage search of  
GNUnet.org....  I think I'll pass.  Thanks for that rather thoughtful  
suggestion.

goofyzrnssm

[0] https://gnunet.org/faq-page#t10n2269


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